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Posted by JOETHEHARDCOREANDAWE - May 28th, 2023


Why I don't endorse Lord X in Rerun, the reason of which I have already expressed multiple times.


There are two main reasons as to why I have decided against Lord X’s inclusion in Rerun. First, I was upset with certain controversial individuals being associated with the mod while my character was in it, a prime example being Avery. Avery, even before what was recently revealed about him, had shown time and time again to be someone who would not be ideal to work with considering their past (note that I also disapprove of the character’s inclusion in other mods who were guilty of the same thing). The other reason (also being the reason as to why I chose to single out Rerun compared to other mods) is because I have had multiple issues with people from the mod up to this point which made me uncomfortable with my character starring in the mod. Ultimately, I hold my rights and wishes to have Lord X removed from Rerun and I would appreciate it if the mod team were to respect them.


The reason as to why I said no to Muto:


I am aware of how much time and effort you have put into Lord X’s content for the mod. Trust me, I understand that firsthand considering I have had to do the exact same thing and scrap months-worth of work for reasons entirely out of my control.


Your response is exactly the reason as to why I said no: you have proven to me that you are unable to control yourself and/or respect my wishes despite this.


The reason as to why I said “because no” to Nayu:


The fact that you have been pushing me for a reason to deem “good enough” when me saying no is a justifiable reason on its own just comes to show how immature you are when you go complaining on Twitter after I directly express to you that I did not wish to speak to you.


This is precisely what I meant by troubled/disrespectful individuals and is the reason as to why I no longer allow my character in Rerun. I would like to make it clear that this is nowhere near as deep as many people have made it out to be, just because I choose not to respond. I have already expressed before that the reason I choose not to respond is because I do not wish to indulge in any drama and/or incite it any further as these individuals have made me believe for the reasons I expressed that they will do so.


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@SenorSwirls to build off of this we wouldn't have had a reaction like this if we ever knew a reason you could have told us in advance when you originally felt uncomfortable when we didn't have that much progress :skull:

To be honest this reaction is exactly why I didn't respond in the first place, the reason I look so in the wrong here is that these individuals can't seem to realize that until after the fact.

@NightMareXQ @JOETHEHARDCOREANDAWE Just wondering, is it ok if we repurpose some of the stuff made for him for something else (basically remove all the stuff related to Lord X in it and add something new

@JOETHEHARDCOREANDAWE i mean both of you are in the wrong because this could've been easily solved but i get what your tryna say

No, I'm not in the wrong here

My decision to say no is completely valid and if they had just respected that from the start this would not have occurred.

They have done this before and that's exactly why I chose not to respond. You could say I'm in the wrong for not wanting to but it becomes immediately validated by the response I got for that.

ey man, its your charater, you decide

can't complain about this response

You did a right thing.

@NightMareXQ @JOETHEHARDCOREANDAWE to be fair Mutos response is justified because He worked hard on those sprites. Maybe yes his attitude could have been different but he has a right to be mad. Just saying although I too understand where your coming from. In my opinion you both are right.

Imma be real. I get both sides

I hate scrapping work as much as muto. I had a mod in the works where i had him as a big opponent. But I'll respect your choice on banning him. It's your character. Not mine

@NightMareXQ @JOETHEHARDCOREANDAWE Okay, while I can understand your reasons to ban your character, you still aren't completely on the right here.
If you told them this instead of not offering any context, this whole situation wouldn't have happened in the first place. If you want to be respected, respect others first, put yourself in their shoes.

You gived them the permission and then decided to take it away completally out of nowhere. This dosn't really help your case.

I guess the reroy wars have concluded

thanks joe

I understand why you ban lord X and the reason for Ask not use lord X for Rerun I like lord X I like seeing him in Fanart Fnf sometimes I like him alot so have nice/night also I sent a message and I mess up the words, have a nice/night everyone

Joe, maybe, if you were feeling uncomfortable with some of the members of the dev team, and you were regretting leaving your character to this people, you should have been more transparent and took Lord X out of it while things were in development, not after a fucking year and when things were almost done. Do you not think it isn't that morally correct in the context of this situation, it should have been handled better
Don't get me wrong, I know it's your character and I respect your decision, but this one ain't it chief.

I know your probabaly gonna say no to this but: can I use some of the concept sketches of the guardians for lord x and can I use lord x for a restoration mod?

Well... I've already read everything and analyzed it, I've seen both sides of the coin and I'm going to give my opinion: Joe, your attitude was not the right one with muto, he went with a respectful attitude asking for a permit (at first) okay, there you already told him no, but then he just wanted a reason, since it's his time, his art, everything that cost todo the sprites, everything,to go to the trash, that's why I wanted a reason, not a "no lol", that seems quite immature, you said I didn't want drama,But he wanted to solve things privately, but you denied it, he did it on twitter because if you didn't hear him someone else would have to hear him, since he can complain to someone, not just say "you can't tell anyone", how would everything have been solved? Telling muto a reason for example "I have problems with x person or x reason" would surely have seen your reasons and all right, wouldn't have gone empty-handed with a "no lol"

mad respect being polite and straightforward i hope your doing well and god bless you i hope you rest as your working hard! always respect you and your work bc you do so much and work really hard and have been through a lot of shit, sorry its been that way i hope its better for you as well! if i ever do make a mod and wanna add lord x i’ll let you inow first your a chill fella yk!

but can i ask it still okay to draw fanart of lord x is that okay to do? just was wondering no pressure

You are acting over a personal grudge instead of acting over logic. I'm sorry but there's no point in people respecting you if you fuck them over. And over a what? A personal grudge? Really? Respect comes both ways buddy. You are still the one who gaved them the permission in the first place. And you are the one who made Muto lash out since you treated him so unfearly. Do you remember what happened last time people in this community acted over personal grudges? The Revie Situation. She got slandered and completelly fucked over because a few people had a few petty grudges over her. And I don't think we have recovered from that situation since.

Here's a easy solution that might benefit both sides:
If a mod has Lord X (and other banned exes) in it prior to the ban and most of the content is finished, such as Muto's, then let them release it. If a mod dosn't have much content finished then scrap it. Scrap only the things that are easy to scrap. Therefor both sides are happy.

Please consider this. And please stop acting over grudges. That causes nothing but problems

I is team redrawn also a no ? we had a v1-2 before and we were wondering if we are allowed to use lord x ?

I don't complain about this (no one should). It's your choice, and character too.

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